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GayGamer Mailbag For October 13th, 2008

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In this week's mailbag:

Is PC gaming dead, or just sleeping?

What game character would make you hop the fence? Can you guess The Doctor's?

Will gay people exist after the apocalypse?

Jump to read the column, and send your questions to the Mailbag

Hello! I was curious as to the gay content of Fallout 3. I always remember fondly my days of playing Fallout and Fallout 2, and usually took a morbid curiosity in the finer aspects of the Adult Film Industry in the second installment. Also, I seem to remember a same-sex marriage story line in one of them. (It's been a while) I assume that Bethesda would keep up the "make your own choices" attitude that they have done so well with in their other games but you know what they say about assuming things.... you generally shouldn't... assume... them...*cough*

So anyway, if you could enlighten that'd be just swell! :D

-Nils

I could regale you with stories of the post-apocalyptic love affair of two male scientists, but instead I'll give you the lowdown on what we know. Thanks to a post on Joystiq, we know that we can expect some gay content, but perhaps not to the level we'll see in Fable II. Lead Designer Emil Pagliarulo said:

There are characters you can infer are gay. "We don't make a big deal out of it," he said. "To us, they're people."

I sort of love that quote. Making an issue a non-issue is in my opinion the best way to deal with any sort of mildly controversial content. For those of you hoping for some Mass Effect style blurry partial nudity filled loving, you'll be disappointed:

"We haven't pushed the limits with sex, we found that the whole adult content thing, we knew we'd have crazy over-the-top violence and have kids in the game, and dealing with attacking them." Pagliarulo cited Mass Effect as a game where it was important to the story. In Fallout 3, he said, he didn't want to make sex "a joke and cheesy," much like excessive profanity (a lot was cut out, apparently). "The closest you come to any of that is renting a room and [a woman] sleeps next to you. It's implication." That happens for either gender.

Does this mean either gender can be in bed with a woman? I'm not jumping to any conclusions here but if that's the case I 'm crying foul. I'll hold my tongue until then.


Which Video Game character would you go straight for?

I would go straight for Heather in the Silent Hill Series! Drools...

-Danyel

First off, I'll offer my personal choice for the woman who could take me to Heterotown. Aya Brea, heroine of the Parasite Eve series. Something about a strong woman who is also sexy, attends the opera, and can shoot a gun as well as she can manipulate mitochondria really gets me heart going...or it would if my heart was into that sort of thing. As for my brothers at GayGamer. Here's the women who could tame their man-loving hearts:

Fruit Brute: Ivy from Soul Calibur. She looks like she could kick some serious ass, including mine. Maybe it's because she's kind of mannish? I don't know...
Tiny Dancer: Not gonna happen! But Bayonetta is such a great tranny... I pick her
Mikey: Bridget...oh wait she's a guy.
Dawdle: I'm pretty high on the Kinsey Scale, but I find Jade (Beyond Good and Evil) and Alyx Vance (Half Life 2) both stunning, and I just told my friend this weekend that the new Resident Evil 5 character Sheva might be the most gorgeous woman I've seen in a video game (even if she has the bad habit of walking into the middle of gunfire). My female Commander Shepard from Mass Effect was pretty awesome too, but that could have just been due to the great work of Jennifer Hale. But really, I'd probably rather go shopping with any of them than do anything yucky.
NaviFairy: Jade from Beyond Good and Evil. She's a fully fleshed out character outside of just being a woman, so there's still a lot for a gay boy to love.
Wootini: I've always said that Angelina Jolie could make me experiment with heterosexuality, so maybe I'd go straight for pay for Lara Croft? Although the game character doesn't look anything like Angelina Jolie. Actually, I think my female guitarist in my Rock Band 2 band is kind of hot with her fiery red hair and black Emma Peel leather jumpsuit...
PixelPoet Ummm, don't really think any of the ladies in video games could make me straight (large chested ladies don't do it for me); however, I'm sure that Tingle could scare me straight.
Sgt. Sausagepants: Umm... I honestly can't think of one.

I'm really interested to see the character that would cause you to switch teams, so leave it in the comments section at the end.


Dear Doc,

Do you believe that PC gaming is really coming to an end? What do you think
the future holds for the humble PC?

-Stef

PC gaming as we know it is coming to an end and that is a good thing. Woah now, before you start sending the hate mail hear me out. The relationship between PC game developers and gamers has gone beyond tense. The war on piracy has created DRM, which has destroyed the loyalty once afforded by to publishers by the consumer. Even PC games journalism has taken a hit because PC gamers aren't venturing out to purchase print publications. Here's my theory on why all this is happening: PC gamers are moving forward and everyone else is trying to play catch-up.

As a console gamer, I've just now become accustomed to patches, updates to bugs that were in the initial game release. Before this generation, if a game had problems, you had to deal with them. PC gamers on the other hand have been used to patching games, updates to content, the works. I know this is just one example, but stop to think about it. High end PC's have always been far more powerful than any console available at the same time. The community itself is arguably tighter than console communities, mainly because PC gamers have a unified platform where they can argue over games themselves without trying to sell the merits of one PC over another. Granted I'm sure there are arguments over graphics cards and whatnot but you get the idea right?

PC gaming has entered into a new stage of its life cycle, a stage that we're unfamiliar with. Console gamers are discussing the growing market of digitally distributed content while PC gamers have Steam among other downloadable services offering full games. The independent games market that console gamers we're seeing with games like Braid is old hat in the PC community. Where will PC gaming head next? We don't know because nobody has ever gone down that path before. So while many view PC gaming as in trouble, in fact it is about to experience a dramatic shift in the next couple of years. One prediction is that the PC gaming community will become far more connected, taking social aspects of MMO's and content sharing in Spore and creating an online community we have never seen before. So fear not PC gamers, the best is yet to come.

I thought the other GayGamer writers would like to have a few words about PC gaming so I asked them for their opinions:

Fruit Brute: I'm not really a PC gamer myself so I may not be the best person to answer this question. But in a professional sense, I do see a lot of games going to PC. I also think people using PC's are more widespread than people who own consoles. There are plenty of games that show up on Steam and other such download sites. So dead, I would say no. Dying? I would day that remains to be seen.
Mikey: Not at all.
Tiny Dancer: No! PCs are in almost every home, every dormroom, and every office in the known universe. PC gaming as a monolithic icon that represents the entirety of the gaming world - that is most certainly dead, if it was ever true. Consoles are on the rise (and becoming more and more like PCs, which I think will eventually obscure this question), but if one thing is certain, it's that a lot of folks spend a large amount of time at or near a computer. Factor in how much of that time is spent bored, procrastinating, or both, and you'll be hard-pressed to imagine a world without PC games. Any gaming platform that doesn't *absolutely* require you to spend hundreds of dollars on specialty hardware is going to survive.

That said, enough of this cheap-ass "Ford Racing" crap. I've seen more useless, waste-of-effort bargain bin PC games than I think is healthy. The PC definitely wins the award for the platform on which industry folks are willing to waste the most effort and money.

Dawdle: I don't think PC gaming is dead, but I do think that except for one or two blockbuster titles a year, it has turned into the domain of either the hardcore gamer, who doesn't mind upgrading parts and swapping out the computer's innards on a whim, or the completely casual one, who only plays a game if it fits into a web browser's window. We'll see if the upcoming Blizzard titles can turn it around, but I think that even those have a good chance of a near-simultaneous console release, now that Activision is at the helm.
NaviFairy: PC gaming is very much alive, it's just different. People seem to think that because mainstream first-person shooters are coming to consoles that there isn't anything left for PCs, which means that PC gaming must be on the way out. But first-person shooters aren't the only games that are made, especially not for PCs. When I think of great PC games, I think first of strategy games. Starcraft, Warcraft, Star Control, Civilization, Warhammer 40,000 Dawn of War, Galactic Civilizations II, Sins of the Solar Empire. Those types of games remain a PC mainstay. Then let's also not forget the entire indie development culture, which consoles are starting to tap into, but still doesn't have the same freedom and bedth of titles that it does on PC.
Wootini: I wouldn't know anything about PC gaming because I have a Mac. And I don't really think Mac gaming was ever alive enough to be able to be called dead at any point. Stillborn?
PixelPoet: This is a tricky question. While video gaming on the PC system is probably said to be 'dying' (and so they've been saying for the past 5+ years), I'd only relegate that trend to 'hardcore' games. Casual and online gaming is actually very much a booming business right now, and I'm sure Popcap and similar sites have the revenue to prove that. On the other hand, PC systems are always the high bench mark of what the industry can do with today's technology, gaming systems just make what was top of the line in PCs a few years ago more available (and cheaper) to the masses while also making a more simple platform for developers to work with. PC gaming is basically the pioneer of the gaming world... watch out for that dissentary .
Sgt. Sausagepants: Oh hell no. See what people are saying about PC gaming dying when Starcraft 2 comes out.

We're at the end already?! We're going to need more questions to fill this column. I will continue to beg until I get a steady stream of mail. So please please please please....

18 Comments

Boyo said:

Hmm...maybe Mia from Phoenix Wright? Although she did have a way of emasculating me in the courtroom...I don't even want to imagine how she'd emasculate me in the bedroom!

Other than that, Alyx Vance definitely.

Mind you, neither one would actually be able to turn me straight...they'd just have the best chance!

Tuck said:

I think Aya could make any gay switch teams. Both her and Lulu.

M0taku said:

wait, is Aya Brea a Jedi? i mean midiclorian sp? remind me an awful lot of her mitochondria. is there another game coming out for Parasite Eve. i remember seeing pics for one, but the only things i could find are for 3rd birthday which is apparently on phones.

Shikar said:

As far as PC Gaming dying, I think its starting to become a bit more lacking in the number of decent titles in comparison to consoles. I own both a PC and several consoles, and to be honest while the PC has the potential to be better, its more expensive to keep up with upgrades, as well as the fact that when you buy a game, you really cant be sure it will work on your PC until you get it home, and if it doesn't you're out your $50, no refunds on that. DRM is starting to strain the gamer/developer relationship. I agree that it is changing, to more of a MMO dominated scene, though the one thing that I doubt will ever move off the PC completely will be RTS games, simply because I have yet to see an RTS game interface that worked on a console as easily and readily as it does on a PC. Plus there's very little learning curve to learning the controls of a PC RTS (point mouse, click mouse, drag mouse, repeat x 1,000,000,000)

Shin Gallon said:

It's funny, I find myself leaning more and more toward gaming on the PC as of late. Most of the games I want to play are released on PC as well as consoles, and most of the time the PC version is far superior (any given FPS, for example, or Oblivion).
The current gen of consoles (PS3, 360, Wii) will more than likely be my final consoles, after which I'll move completely to PC, unless the next gen consoles are basically PCs in terms of mod-ability of games and allowing you to use mouse/keyboard to play the games (which is a full 50% of why I prefer PC gaming).
Meanwhile, all of my favorite console series are either ending (MGS) or ruined in the newer entries (Street Fighter), while the more i look at games on PC the more I find I like. And this from someone with less than zero interest in ever playing MMOs.

Santiago said:

Man, lots of survival horrors girls are kinda cutes and I wouldn't mind spending a little time with them for a game of twister... I know the answer involves going further than a cheap Milton Bradley game, so I'd say Jayne Wilde from Second Sight (because I wouldn't like being interrupted by a bunch of zombies crowling through the window)

@M0taku: I think Third Birthday (PE3) will be made for PSP, they first though it would be cool to have it on your phone, but they changed their mind (there's no much infos about this anyway, only ad posters and a small trailer)

Freezair said:

...Jade's last name is Raymond?

Anyway, speaking as a straight chick... It's cliche to say it, but mmm mmm Samus. You are very right to blame Jennifer Hale. In Brawl, she provides the voice for Samus' taunts, and combined with her... interesting laser whip dealie, I have to admit it inspires some conflicting feelings. But I think Samus may be the lady gamer's version of Bridget. Everyone is lesbian for her.

AliceKK said:

MMM thanks for noting on Aya.. huge fan of her, and the series. Cant wait for pe3 ^^

anyways... who would i go straight for... probably, damn... probably aya as well.

Enrique said:

Aya, most definitely. I had this wallpaper at work and they made me take it down cos it was too sexual in nature.

http://www.animewallpapers.com/game/parasite/full_1.php

It's still my favorite.

blacksheepboy said:

Chris Lightfellow (Suikoden III, PS2) could turn me to the dark side so fast. Notable for the fact that even though she's a bad-ass knight and a female in a video game, she a) doesn't fall in head over heels for one of the male protagonists, b) doesn't have bouncing tits, or c) giggle uncontrollably.

She could be my knight in shining armor any day. /me sighs

Jovlo said:

About Jade and Zero Suit Samus, I so agree...

Ry-Guy said:

I have to agree that Aya is AMAZING (I used that same Wallpaper forEVER, Enrique!) Samus is also fantastic, but I think two of my favourite videogame ladies would have to be Claire Redfield & Ada Wong. But that may just be the fact that I'm a Resident Evil whore...

But if I had to pick one female....... I think it'd be Inahime (Ina) from the Samurai Warriors games. Combine my love of Asian women with my love of archery, and I can't help but be tempted!

Karrde said:

Heh, PC gaming dying. That'd be a good one. I agree though, that it is evolving and becoming more connected. It's changing, and a lot of the old BS will not be tolerated by consumers. What we really need is more partnerships between devs, publishers, and distributors. Things need to move away from the brick and mortar (I really don't like going to a store to buy a game), move towards more online distribution (including permanent repositories for the games to be redownloaded ad nauseum), and support small time and independent devs who are coming up with new, creative ideas and solutions. Basically, we need to expand the idea of steam and move it from the proprietary to the collective (which VALVe does to an extent). I'm talking about a new industrial standard, But we'll see what happens in the next few years as computers evolve and hardware changes.

Shin Gallon said:

I forgot to comment on the "who you'd switch teams for". I rank pretty high on the gay end of the scale, but there are a few of the female persuasion I could see getting down with, like Felicia from Darkstalkers/Vampire, or Krystal from Starfox. Everyone is straight for Krystal.

dawdle said:

@freezair: Jade's last name is Raymond?

Heh, whoops. I guess that's the result of reading too many articles about the game industry. Looking now, it doesn't appear Jade was even given a last name, but somehow I confused her with Jade Raymond, the the producer from Ubisoft, who is also very pretty but definitely not a video game character. Maybe if I ask nice The Doctor will fix that for me.

TheDoctor said:

Oh Dawdle, we all know you have posters of Jade Raymond covering every square inch of your walls. Best not to fight it, I'm sure she thinks you're a swell guy!

=)

Freezair said:

A-whoops indeed. XD Mmm, game industry... people.

Wasn't there an "X Hottest Game Industry People" list a while back? Somewhere? Anywhere?

Eric :) said:

I'm so old school...

I totally hop the fence for Chun-Li from the "Street Fighter II (and beyond)" series.

And girls who like girls who like rumble packs!

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